Look, we don't see cloud as a place. We see it as a
way of doing IT. And AWS, a great partner for VMWare,
customers will decide where to put their workloads, so
arbitrage. Does that mean you don't have to be a big
player in the public cloud yourself? You
can through VMWare connect public cloud with
Assistant. Well, we sell a lot to public cloud, but what I
see is customers having a portfolio where
they say, okay, this workload belongs in the public
cloud. This is software as a service. This is managed
services. This is on- premise. Hear a big point,
though. When you modernize and automate Your
on- premise or colo systems, for the predictable part
of the workload which is for most companies 85, 90 %,
those on- premise and colo systems will cost less.
You're already seeing a fairly big boomerang of
companies that run to the public cloud because it's
high fashion, it's very fashionable, and they say, ooh,
this costs a whole lot more So we're not against the
public cloud at all. It's just it doesn't, it's not the right
place to put all workloads. The rumors about Pivitol
could be an IPO next year. We'd love to have you make
some news here today if you [ INAUDIBLE ] [ LAUGH ]
Well Pivitol's a great business, and when you talk about
digital transformation, Pivitol is sort of at the epicenter
of how. Enormous companies rediscover the
art of software development. And whether it's a digital
transformation, the Internet of Things, how they
develop their Cloud made of apps. It's a fantastic
business. We're not the only orders and [ UNKNOWN ]
We are certainly the majority owners. It's a fantastic
business and continues to evolve. But I don't have any-
Yes, sir, was that a yes or a no? Depends what the
question was. [ LAUGH ] But we love pivotal. The
question was, are you in need of an IPO next year? We
don't have any announcements for you today on that
one. [ BLANK_AUDIO ]